Monday, October 31, 2005
Reformation Day: Trick or Treat?
October 31st is not Halloween but Reformation Day.
This is the day that we celebrate the time in 1517 when a German Augustinian monk, professor and theologian teaching at the University of Wittenberg and preaching at "All Saints" Castle Church (this church was named "All Saints" because it was the repository of his collection of holy relics) decided to question the leaders of the Western Church's understanding of Scripture.
Yes, on "All Saints" Day, a German theologian who fancied the bottle a bit, decided to knock on the door of "All Saints" Church and say, "Trick or treat?"
The Treat was a better understanding of the gospel. The Trick was complete indifference for whether or not the church leadership agreed or disagreed.
For this "All Saints" prank (and "papering" the church door) Luther was labled a "drunk little monk", a "the Saxon Hus" and an arch heretic ... but at least he wasn't labeled a liberal.
So let us honor this occasion in a suitable way, in no particular order:
1) Watch the film, Luther.
2) XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX
3) Remember all who have come before: Luther, Kierkegaard, Kung, Paul, Jeremiah, Elijah, Moody, Marshall, XXXXX, XXXXX, Stagg, Whitsitt, and Elliott among others.
4) Pray to God.
5) Reflect on all the issues that separate you from other believers.
6) Reflect on all the issues that unite you with other believers.
7) Continue to remind yourself that whether you are in the minority or in the majority, your understanding of Scripture could be wrong.
Thursday, October 27, 2005
How did Methuselah die?
We are all familiar with the name Methuselah. His name is synonymous with old-age. He is known as the longest living man recorded in Scripture, coming in at a whopping 969 years (Genesis 5:27).
Now I am not going to go into the subject of the possibility of someone actually living that long. I am not going into the subject of the Ancient Near Eastern cultures’ understanding of antiquity. That, in antiquity, the Ancient Near Eastern culture’s recorded great men of their antiquity as living hundreds and thousands of year is of no concern here. This article is not about the subject of inerrancy.
Rather, I am concerned with the subject as to how Methuselah died. Most people assume that he died of old-age. I mean, if someone today dies at the age of 96, we assume he died of old age. Now if a person died at the age of 969, then old age is a sure bet. … But is it?
Follow my math here:
Methuselah was 187 when he begat his son Lamech (5:26)
Lamech was 182 when he begat his son Noah (5:28-29).
At the time Lamech was 182 and begetting Noah, Methuselah was 369.
Now Noah was 500 when he begat his sons Ham, Shem, and Japheth (5:32), who we must assume were triplets.
At the time that Noah was 500 and begetting Ham, Shem, and Japheth, Noah’s father, Lamech, was 682 years old. Noah’s grandfather, Methuselah was 869 years old.
Now at the time of the flood, Noah was 600 years old (7:6) and his three sons were each 100.
In verse 5:30, Lamech is said to have lived 595 after the birth of Noah. If he was 182 at the birth of Noah, and lived 595 more years, then Lamech would have died at the age of 777 (5:31), five years before the flood.
Now Methuselah was 869 years of age at the birth of Noah’s three sons when Noah was 500. If the flood came when Noah was 600 and his three sons were 100, the flood would have come when Methuselah was 969. And, as Genesis 5:27 says, Methuselah died at the age of 969.
Therefore, Methuselah outlived his son, Lamech, by five years, and died the same year as the great flood that destroyed all life.
So my question is: HOW DID METHUSELAH DIE? Did he die of natural causes just before the flood or did he die as a result of the flood? The Bible is silent about this.
The Bible does not make any assertions about the faith of Methuselah, either positive or negative or righteous or unrighteous.
The answer to how Methuselah died must remain a mystery for some time.
Now I am not going to go into the subject of the possibility of someone actually living that long. I am not going into the subject of the Ancient Near Eastern cultures’ understanding of antiquity. That, in antiquity, the Ancient Near Eastern culture’s recorded great men of their antiquity as living hundreds and thousands of year is of no concern here. This article is not about the subject of inerrancy.
Rather, I am concerned with the subject as to how Methuselah died. Most people assume that he died of old-age. I mean, if someone today dies at the age of 96, we assume he died of old age. Now if a person died at the age of 969, then old age is a sure bet. … But is it?
Follow my math here:
Methuselah was 187 when he begat his son Lamech (5:26)
Lamech was 182 when he begat his son Noah (5:28-29).
At the time Lamech was 182 and begetting Noah, Methuselah was 369.
Now Noah was 500 when he begat his sons Ham, Shem, and Japheth (5:32), who we must assume were triplets.
At the time that Noah was 500 and begetting Ham, Shem, and Japheth, Noah’s father, Lamech, was 682 years old. Noah’s grandfather, Methuselah was 869 years old.
Now at the time of the flood, Noah was 600 years old (7:6) and his three sons were each 100.
In verse 5:30, Lamech is said to have lived 595 after the birth of Noah. If he was 182 at the birth of Noah, and lived 595 more years, then Lamech would have died at the age of 777 (5:31), five years before the flood.
Now Methuselah was 869 years of age at the birth of Noah’s three sons when Noah was 500. If the flood came when Noah was 600 and his three sons were 100, the flood would have come when Methuselah was 969. And, as Genesis 5:27 says, Methuselah died at the age of 969.
Therefore, Methuselah outlived his son, Lamech, by five years, and died the same year as the great flood that destroyed all life.
So my question is: HOW DID METHUSELAH DIE? Did he die of natural causes just before the flood or did he die as a result of the flood? The Bible is silent about this.
The Bible does not make any assertions about the faith of Methuselah, either positive or negative or righteous or unrighteous.
The answer to how Methuselah died must remain a mystery for some time.
Sunday, October 23, 2005
Friday, October 21, 2005
SBFM2005
Here is a brief commentary in the Southern Baptist Faith and Message 2000.
The Scriptures
The Holy Bible was written by men [and women] divinely inspired and is God's revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God [and man] for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter [depending on what you consider its “matter” to be].
God
There is one and only one living and true God. …The eternal God reveals Himself to us as Father, Son and Holy Spirit, with distinct personal attributes [This is incorrect: The Scriptures nowhere speak of God having three distinct personalities. God is only One person and we know Him by Father, Son and Spirit which are ALL one person. Jesus Christ, the Son, is the full revelation of God in His person. There are not two persons in Father and Son but one person. The Spirit and the Son are the Word and Breath of God the Father. They are breathed out by Him simultaneously. The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. The error in believing God as three persons had developed in the change in language over the centuries. The Latin word, persona, which we get our word “person,” did not mean “personality” with which we now associate the word. God is One personality.], but without division of nature, essence, or being.
God the Father
God as Father reigns with providential care over His universe, His creatures, and the flow of the stream of human history according to the purposes of His grace. …God is Father in truth to those who become children of God through faith in Jesus Christ.
God the Son
Christ is the eternal Son of God. In His incarnation as Jesus Christ, He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. …He honored the divine law by His personal obedience, and in His death on the cross, He made provision for the redemption of men from sin [Oddly enough, there is nothing in this confession that addresses a particular view of the atonement. While it is generally true that conservative evangelicals hold to the penal substitutionary theory of atonement, there is nothing here that explicitly confesses that belief. This is one of the inclusive features of the 1924 and 1963 BFMs that made it such a wonderful document.].
God the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. …He exalts Christ. He convicts of sin, of righteousness and of judgment. …He enlightens and empowers the believer and the church in worship, evangelism, and service.
Man
Man was created by the special act of God, in His own image, and is the crowning work of His creation [All this is true and does not necessitate the abandonment of the scientific theory of evolution]. …By his free choice man sinned against God and brought sin into the human race [This is interesting. The use of “man” instead of “Adam” leaves possible the inclusion of a non-Augustine understanding of Original Sin.]. … The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image, and in that Christ died for man; therefore every man possesses dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love.
Salvation
Salvation involves the redemption of the whole man, and is offered freely to all who accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, who by His own blood [not just by his blood (i.e. his death); the atoning work of Christ involved both His life and death.] obtained eternal redemption for the believer. In its broadest sense salvation includes regeneration, sanctification, and glorification.
God's Purpose of Grace
Election is the gracious purpose of God, according to which He regenerates, sanctifies, and glorifies sinners. …All true believers endure to the end. Those whom God has accepted in Christ, and sanctified by His Spirit will never fall away from the state of grace [This is incorrect: sanctification is an on-going process in the life of the believer. There are believers not eternally elected who are sanctified to some degree but then “fall away” and stop believing.], but shall persevere to the end.
The Church
A New Testament church of the Lord Jesus Christ is a local body [not just a local body, as you will see further down; the Church is also understood as the entire body of believers at any point in time. This limited understanding of the church is a remnant of the SBC’s early Landmark influence.] of baptized believers who are associated by covenant in the faith and fellowship of the gospel…and seeking to extend the gospel to the ends of the earth [The “gospel” is mentioned 3 times in this confession but is never once define. What do Southern Baptists consider the Gospel to be?]. …This church is an autonomous body. …The New Testament speaks also of the church as the body of Christ, which includes all of the redeemed of all the ages.
Baptism & the Lord's Supper
Christian baptism is the immersion of a believer in water [not just immersion]. …It is an act of obedience symbolizing the believer's faith in a crucified, buried, and risen Saviour, the believer's death to sin, the burial of the life, and the resurrection to walk in newness of life in Christ Jesus.
The Lord's Supper is a symbolic act of obedience whereby members … memorialize the death of the Redeemer and anticipate His second coming [I prefer the term “communion” over the term “Lord’s Supper.” It is during Communion that we remember what Christ did to reconcile us to God. It is during Communion that we remember what Christ did to reconcile us to our neighbor. It is during communion that we remember that Christ will return and we shall be fully reconciled with God and Man in Jesus Christ. During Communion we who are in Christ commune with God in Christ and commune with our neighbors in the Church (the body of Christ) who are in Christ. While such communion with others in Christ is administered on the local level in the local church, the spiritual reality is that we commune with all believers at all times who have ever or will ever be in Christ. This communion anticipates the final state of when Christ returns and all believers will eternally commune with other believers and God in Christ. … Also, Communion should not be restricted to just “members of the local church”; it should be offered to all believers who profess relation to God through Christ. This “member” idea is another remnant of SBC Landmark influence.].
The Lord's Day
The first day of the week is the Lord's Day [Sunday is the traditional “day of rest” Baptists. The Sabbath was instituted by God for man to rest from the weariness of this world. It is an element of God’s grace for those who bear his image. Jesus’ example was that when He wanted to work on the Sabbath He did so. When Jesus wanted to rest and it wasn’t the Sabbath He did so. Jesus often worked on the Sabbath and withdrew to a quiet place to rest when He needed the rest. Leonard Sweet refers to these as “instant Sabbaths.” For those who wish to serve the Church in SBC churches, Sunday is rarely a “day of rest.” We receive our ultimate “rest” both physically and spiritually in God.]. …It commemorates the resurrection of Christ from the dead [and foreshadows and anticipates the ultimate “rest” that we shall receive at the consummation of all things in Christ.] and should be employed in exercises of worship and spiritual devotion.
Last Things
God, in His own time and in His own way, will bring the world to its appropriate end. …Jesus Christ will return personally and visibly [and physically] …the dead will be raised; and Christ will judge all men in righteousness. The unrighteous will be consigned to Hell [“Hell” refers to the place of punishment both temporal and eternal. Temporal punishment is the physical and spiritual conscious punishment for sins against God and Man. Eternal punishment is described in the Scriptures as “destruction” and “the second death.” The unbeliever will be annihilated and punished with non-existence for all eternity.] and …The righteous… will receive their reward and will dwell forever in Heaven [not just heaven, but also Earth] with the Lord.
Evangelism & Missions
It is the duty and privilege of every follower of Christ and every church of the Lord Jesus Christ to endeavor to make disciples of all nations … to seek constantly to win the lost to Christ by personal effort.
Education
The cause of education in the Kingdom of Christ is co-ordinate with the causes of missions and general benevolence … there should be a proper balance between academic freedom and academic responsibility. …The freedom of a teacher in a Christian school, college, or seminary is limited by the pre-eminence of Jesus Christ, by the authoritative nature of the Scriptures, and by the distinct purpose for which the school exists [and not by the shifting wills and beliefs of the school trustees, the school president, the local body of believers and the majority’s consensus].
Stewardship
God is the source of all blessings, temporal and spiritual; all that we have and are we owe to Him. Christians have a spiritual debtorship to the whole world, a holy trusteeship in the gospel, and a binding stewardship in their possessions. They are therefore under obligation to serve Him with their time, talents, and material possessions.
Cooperation
Christ's people should … organize such associations and conventions as may best secure cooperation for the great objects of the Kingdom of God. Such organizations have no authority over one another or over the churches. …Cooperation is desirable between the various Christian denominations [Yes, and if we can cooperate with Roman Catholics on moral goals we can surely cooperate with other Baptists on soteriological goals.].
The Christian & the Social Order
Every Christian is under obligation to seek to make the will of Christ supreme in his own life and in human society. ... The Christian should oppose in the spirit of Christ every form of greed, selfishness, and vice [Yes, however, there are both kingdom goals (“the will of Christ”) and kingdom methods (also “the will of Christ”). I take the term “in the Spirit of Christ” as referring to the Christ-like manner in which Christ proclaimed the gospel (i.e. the kingdom of God) in both word and deed. The kingdom of God can only be realized by the methods of the kingdom. No other method is granted by God. Therefore, no matter how good are the intentions of those who pursue the goals of the kingdom of heaven must do so by the methods of the kingdom of heaven or their striving is in vain.].
Religious Liberty
Church and state should be separate. The state owes to every church protection and full freedom in the pursuit of its spiritual ends. …A free church in a free state is the Christian ideal [this obviously needs further explanation].
Family
God has ordained the family as the foundational institution of human society [I am somewhat skeptical about this assertion; I do not see such a statement proclaimed in Scripture.]. …Marriage is the unity of one man and one woman in covenant commitment for a lifetime [Therefore, even if gay couples think they are married they are not God does not recognize their marriage.] …The husband and wife are of equal worth before God, since both are created in God's image [Good.]. The marriage relationship models the way God relates to His people. …Children, from the moment of conception, are a blessing and heritage from the Lord.
The Scriptures
The Holy Bible was written by men [and women] divinely inspired and is God's revelation of Himself to man. It is a perfect treasure of divine instruction. It has God [and man] for its author, salvation for its end, and truth, without any mixture of error, for its matter [depending on what you consider its “matter” to be].
God
There is one and only one living and true God. …The eternal God reveals Himself to us as Father, Son and Holy Spirit, with distinct personal attributes [This is incorrect: The Scriptures nowhere speak of God having three distinct personalities. God is only One person and we know Him by Father, Son and Spirit which are ALL one person. Jesus Christ, the Son, is the full revelation of God in His person. There are not two persons in Father and Son but one person. The Spirit and the Son are the Word and Breath of God the Father. They are breathed out by Him simultaneously. The Spirit of God is the Spirit of Christ. The error in believing God as three persons had developed in the change in language over the centuries. The Latin word, persona, which we get our word “person,” did not mean “personality” with which we now associate the word. God is One personality.], but without division of nature, essence, or being.
God the Father
God as Father reigns with providential care over His universe, His creatures, and the flow of the stream of human history according to the purposes of His grace. …God is Father in truth to those who become children of God through faith in Jesus Christ.
God the Son
Christ is the eternal Son of God. In His incarnation as Jesus Christ, He was conceived of the Holy Spirit and born of the virgin Mary. …He honored the divine law by His personal obedience, and in His death on the cross, He made provision for the redemption of men from sin [Oddly enough, there is nothing in this confession that addresses a particular view of the atonement. While it is generally true that conservative evangelicals hold to the penal substitutionary theory of atonement, there is nothing here that explicitly confesses that belief. This is one of the inclusive features of the 1924 and 1963 BFMs that made it such a wonderful document.].
God the Holy Spirit
The Holy Spirit is the Spirit of God. …He exalts Christ. He convicts of sin, of righteousness and of judgment. …He enlightens and empowers the believer and the church in worship, evangelism, and service.
Man
Man was created by the special act of God, in His own image, and is the crowning work of His creation [All this is true and does not necessitate the abandonment of the scientific theory of evolution]. …By his free choice man sinned against God and brought sin into the human race [This is interesting. The use of “man” instead of “Adam” leaves possible the inclusion of a non-Augustine understanding of Original Sin.]. … The sacredness of human personality is evident in that God created man in His own image, and in that Christ died for man; therefore every man possesses dignity and is worthy of respect and Christian love.
Salvation
Salvation involves the redemption of the whole man, and is offered freely to all who accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Saviour, who by His own blood [not just by his blood (i.e. his death); the atoning work of Christ involved both His life and death.] obtained eternal redemption for the believer. In its broadest sense salvation includes regeneration, sanctification, and glorification.
God's Purpose of Grace
Election is the gracious purpose of God, according to which He regenerates, sanctifies, and glorifies sinners. …All true believers endure to the end. Those whom God has accepted in Christ, and sanctified by His Spirit will never fall away from the state of grace [This is incorrect: sanctification is an on-going process in the life of the believer. There are believers not eternally elected who are sanctified to some degree but then “fall away” and stop believing.], but shall persevere to the end.
The Church
A New Testament church of the Lord Jesus Christ is a local body [not just a local body, as you will see further down; the Church is also understood as the entire body of believers at any point in time. This limited understanding of the church is a remnant of the SBC’s early Landmark influence.] of baptized believers who are associated by covenant in the faith and fellowship of the gospel…and seeking to extend the gospel to the ends of the earth [The “gospel” is mentioned 3 times in this confession but is never once define. What do Southern Baptists consider the Gospel to be?]. …This church is an autonomous body. …The New Testament speaks also of the church as the body of Christ, which includes all of the redeemed of all the ages.
Baptism & the Lord's Supper
Christian baptism is the immersion of a believer in water [not just immersion]. …It is an act of obedience symbolizing the believer's faith in a crucified, buried, and risen Saviour, the believer's death to sin, the burial of the life, and the resurrection to walk in newness of life in Christ Jesus.
The Lord's Supper is a symbolic act of obedience whereby members … memorialize the death of the Redeemer and anticipate His second coming [I prefer the term “communion” over the term “Lord’s Supper.” It is during Communion that we remember what Christ did to reconcile us to God. It is during Communion that we remember what Christ did to reconcile us to our neighbor. It is during communion that we remember that Christ will return and we shall be fully reconciled with God and Man in Jesus Christ. During Communion we who are in Christ commune with God in Christ and commune with our neighbors in the Church (the body of Christ) who are in Christ. While such communion with others in Christ is administered on the local level in the local church, the spiritual reality is that we commune with all believers at all times who have ever or will ever be in Christ. This communion anticipates the final state of when Christ returns and all believers will eternally commune with other believers and God in Christ. … Also, Communion should not be restricted to just “members of the local church”; it should be offered to all believers who profess relation to God through Christ. This “member” idea is another remnant of SBC Landmark influence.].
The Lord's Day
The first day of the week is the Lord's Day [Sunday is the traditional “day of rest” Baptists. The Sabbath was instituted by God for man to rest from the weariness of this world. It is an element of God’s grace for those who bear his image. Jesus’ example was that when He wanted to work on the Sabbath He did so. When Jesus wanted to rest and it wasn’t the Sabbath He did so. Jesus often worked on the Sabbath and withdrew to a quiet place to rest when He needed the rest. Leonard Sweet refers to these as “instant Sabbaths.” For those who wish to serve the Church in SBC churches, Sunday is rarely a “day of rest.” We receive our ultimate “rest” both physically and spiritually in God.]. …It commemorates the resurrection of Christ from the dead [and foreshadows and anticipates the ultimate “rest” that we shall receive at the consummation of all things in Christ.] and should be employed in exercises of worship and spiritual devotion.
Last Things
God, in His own time and in His own way, will bring the world to its appropriate end. …Jesus Christ will return personally and visibly [and physically] …the dead will be raised; and Christ will judge all men in righteousness. The unrighteous will be consigned to Hell [“Hell” refers to the place of punishment both temporal and eternal. Temporal punishment is the physical and spiritual conscious punishment for sins against God and Man. Eternal punishment is described in the Scriptures as “destruction” and “the second death.” The unbeliever will be annihilated and punished with non-existence for all eternity.] and …The righteous… will receive their reward and will dwell forever in Heaven [not just heaven, but also Earth] with the Lord.
Evangelism & Missions
It is the duty and privilege of every follower of Christ and every church of the Lord Jesus Christ to endeavor to make disciples of all nations … to seek constantly to win the lost to Christ by personal effort.
Education
The cause of education in the Kingdom of Christ is co-ordinate with the causes of missions and general benevolence … there should be a proper balance between academic freedom and academic responsibility. …The freedom of a teacher in a Christian school, college, or seminary is limited by the pre-eminence of Jesus Christ, by the authoritative nature of the Scriptures, and by the distinct purpose for which the school exists [and not by the shifting wills and beliefs of the school trustees, the school president, the local body of believers and the majority’s consensus].
Stewardship
God is the source of all blessings, temporal and spiritual; all that we have and are we owe to Him. Christians have a spiritual debtorship to the whole world, a holy trusteeship in the gospel, and a binding stewardship in their possessions. They are therefore under obligation to serve Him with their time, talents, and material possessions.
Cooperation
Christ's people should … organize such associations and conventions as may best secure cooperation for the great objects of the Kingdom of God. Such organizations have no authority over one another or over the churches. …Cooperation is desirable between the various Christian denominations [Yes, and if we can cooperate with Roman Catholics on moral goals we can surely cooperate with other Baptists on soteriological goals.].
The Christian & the Social Order
Every Christian is under obligation to seek to make the will of Christ supreme in his own life and in human society. ... The Christian should oppose in the spirit of Christ every form of greed, selfishness, and vice [Yes, however, there are both kingdom goals (“the will of Christ”) and kingdom methods (also “the will of Christ”). I take the term “in the Spirit of Christ” as referring to the Christ-like manner in which Christ proclaimed the gospel (i.e. the kingdom of God) in both word and deed. The kingdom of God can only be realized by the methods of the kingdom. No other method is granted by God. Therefore, no matter how good are the intentions of those who pursue the goals of the kingdom of heaven must do so by the methods of the kingdom of heaven or their striving is in vain.].
Religious Liberty
Church and state should be separate. The state owes to every church protection and full freedom in the pursuit of its spiritual ends. …A free church in a free state is the Christian ideal [this obviously needs further explanation].
Family
God has ordained the family as the foundational institution of human society [I am somewhat skeptical about this assertion; I do not see such a statement proclaimed in Scripture.]. …Marriage is the unity of one man and one woman in covenant commitment for a lifetime [Therefore, even if gay couples think they are married they are not God does not recognize their marriage.] …The husband and wife are of equal worth before God, since both are created in God's image [Good.]. The marriage relationship models the way God relates to His people. …Children, from the moment of conception, are a blessing and heritage from the Lord.
A Quick Thought
Someone asked me recently whether I held to an Old-Earth Creation or a Young-Earth Creation.
I said , “Young-Earth; 4.57 billion years and not older than that.”
I said , “Young-Earth; 4.57 billion years and not older than that.”
Monday, October 17, 2005
Wallace & Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit
The missis and myself had the pleasure of seeing the new film, Wallace and Gromit in The Curse of the Were-Rabbit.
Now both of us are Wallace and Gromit fans, having enjoyed the three short films, so our standards and anticipation were quite high. Safe to say that neither were disappointed.
This is a wonderful film that deserves repeated viewing. I would suggest that this is probably one of the best films I have seen this year. Yes, better that Brothers Grim, Fever Pitch and Song of Bernadette, but not as good as Spirited Away. Oddly enough, both the top two are “animation”.
I would recommend this film to all. It is a G film for the kids but more than enough jokes to please parents and non-parents alike. Also, there are a few slight innuendo jokes that will pass over kids’ heads but are hilarious none the less.
Here is the Ebert Review for all who are interested.
Wednesday, October 12, 2005
Evolution, the Gospel, and the Baptist Press
Recently I have been tackling the issue of Evolution and Fundamentalistic Christianity. Actually, I have been wrestling with this issue for years now. Up until recently my focus has been on the belief that evolution and conservative Christianity are incompatible subjects. Since I believe that this is not the case I have sought to change the conservative Christian mindset on this subject. While I am in no way desiring that people should hold to evolution as I do, I do desire that conservative Christians at least allow other Christians to hold the theory of evolution without referring to them as liberal, errantists, or , even worse, unbelievers. This has been my goal.
However, two other aspects of this issue have gained my focus:
First, I am amazed that so many of our conservative leaders and scholars devote so much time to this issue. With all the problems in this world and in this country, it somewhat amazes me that people can spend so much time on this subject. Then again, what am I doing?
Perusing the various conservative leaders’ work on this subject, many of them see evolution as the source (or, at least, excuse) for all of modern life’s problems. Such is not the case but that is what many appear to believe publicly.
However, among the SBC leaders there have been two reasons given that we all should dislike about evolution. The first reason was given during the early days of the fundamentalist movement. Evolution was called a lie because it reduced man’s importance to the level of animal and denied he was made in the image of God. Such was not the case and this argument dropped by the wayside as the old fundamentalists did. However, the resurgence of fundamentalists into the SBC leadership under the dubious issue of biblical inerrancy precipitated a “revival” of the fundamentalist attack on evolution. This time the theory that had gained wide acceptance by the overwhelming majority of believers (including the majority of conservative believers) was being attacked on the basis of being contrary to the Bible, therefore, all who believed in evolution believed the Bible to be erring. Such was not the case but there you are. Now we are seeing a barrage of fundamentalist books and news stories articulating to the public and all the other Bible-believing Christians that evolution is contrary to the revealed Scriptures of the Creator.
The second aspect of this issue that has amazed me is one that has only recently come upon me.
Whenever I discuss this issue with other seminarians who are surprised at my belief in evolution and Biblical inerrancy, they almost always ask how I can agree with a theory that argues that man is not created in God’s image. I usually answer that I do not believe that the theory of evolution does contradict the revealed truth that humans are made in God’s image.
Yes, reasons Christians give for being against evolution are many: inerrancy, “miracle” creation, image of God … okay, the reasons are three. But there is one reason to be against evolution that I never hear from conservative Christians. Yes, I do have one problem with the theory of evolution that it is currently espoused.
In college, I read a book by William Golding called The Inheritors.
In this book, eight Neanderthals encounter another race of beings like themselves, yet strangely different. This new race, Homo sapiens, fascinating in their skills and sophistication, terrifying in their cruelty, sense of guilt, and incipient corruption, spell doom for the more gentle folk whose world they will inherit.
Now the subtle yet subversive point of this book is its title derived from the Bible, Matthew 5:5; this is the Sermon on the Mount, in which Jesus says, ‘Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.’
Yes, there is a real problem with the current theory of evolution that argues for “the survival of the fittest”. Now I happen to believe that there is a way around this problem but there is still an idea in our world that the strong inherit the earth. Now I do not necessarily blame Darwin for this belief. The history of humanity (and its pre-history) suggests that this world is run by the aggressive use of force. Darwinism did not event “survival of the fittest”; it merely found a naturalistic basis for it.
Yet, as the Sermon on the Mount illustrates, the kingdom of heaven is not of this world and is based on laws and rules and commandments at antithesis to the rules of this world. The kingdom is based on peace, meekness, patience, joy, love, poverty and such a kingdom comes at a snails pace but lasts for eternity. This world is based on war, brute force, impatience, misery, hate, wealth and such a world comes quick but lasts only a moment. The kingdom of God is totally at odds with this world and this is the good news. The Kingdom of Heaven has come and is coming and was inaugurated by the coming of its king, Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ-figure, the Son of Man, the Son of God, the Incarnated God-Man, and the kingdom will find its perfection when Jesus returns. The Kingdom of God IS the Gospel. And the fact that the kingdom of heaven was based on meekness and the like was foolishness to the Greek mind and a stumbling block to the Jews. Yet there it is.
And it is still foolishness to this world and much of the Church. It is amazing, ironic and sad that the most famous use of the rules of the Kingdom of God were applied by the Hindus and Muslims of India under Gandhi.
The most famous American example was by Baptist pastor Martin Luther King Jr.
Unfortunately, King appears to have been the last prominent liberal Christian to use the kingdom method. From the 19th century onward (and particularly today), the liberal wing of the American Church is more interested in pushing forward their agenda and the kingdom by means at odds with the kingdom. Very ironic.
And, unfortunately, much of the conservative wing of the American Church has never taken an interest using the kingdom methods. Each time the conservative churches have moved toward the kingdom of God, the fundamentalist wing has taken over and pulled them back. It is interesting that the conservative resurgence leaders used the most worldly of methods to get their way and now are trying, like the liberal churches, to push their vision of the kingdom upon the American culture. And it is failing as well.
Both groups suffer from impatience and the unwillingness to let the “foolish” methods of the kingdom bring the kingdom to this world. Unfortunately, the kingdom can only come by means of the kingdom. All other methods will fail.
Watching the fundamentalist leadership’s efforts of using brute force and overwhelming power to effect change for the kingdom of God is both sad and disheartening. It is painful to see people who are certainly believers and certainly members of the kingdom of God use the most un-gospel-like methods to proclaim the gospel … if, in fact, they do know what the gospel is.
So it does not surprise me at all that most conservatives do not see “survival of the fittest” as a problem with evolution. Most conservatives don’t see “survival of the fittest” as a problem with the gospel! The last 40 years of Southern Baptist History seems to suggest as much.
All of this is to say that I wanted to know how many articles in the chief Southern Baptist Convention news and propaganda outlet, the Baptist Press, mentions the subject of “evolution.” I was under the impression that they mention the subject a lot. It appears that at least once a week some article out of Southern Seminary will be about the evils of evolution. So I researched the past five years of the Baptist Press and found that they only mention evolution in Evolution – 250 articles. So, yeah, about once a week.
...
Then I thought … hmm, how many articles has the Baptist Press mentioned other subjects in the past five years.
For example:
How many articles mention the “gospel”? 4269
How many articles mention Jesus? 6339
How many articles mention Faith? 6008
How many articles mention God? 10851
How many articles mention the Bible? 5215
How many articles mention the Kingdom? 1699
How many articles mention Salvation? 1598
How many articles mention Grace? 1546
How many articles mention Sin? 1264
How many articles mention Evil? 766
So that’s all interesting, but ...
How many articles mention Abortion? 1232
How many articles mention Homosexuality? 885
How many articles mention Poverty? 370
How many articles mention the Supreme Court? 1352
How many articles mention Judge? 1148
How many articles mention the Courts in general - 2220
Interesting where our priorities are located, but …
How many articles mention Republicans? 745
How many articles mention Democrats? 502
Okay, but ...
How many articles mention the Resurgence? 217
How many articles mention Liberal? 791
How many articles mention Conservative? 1386
How many articles mention Moderate? 341
But we are a Christian group standing on the shoulders of giants, so ...
How many articles mention Luther? 223
How many articles mention Calvin? 129
How many articles mention Barth? 8
How many articles mention Augustine? 50
How many articles mention Kierkegaard? 2
How many articles mention Niebuhr? 6
How many articles mention Darwin? 76
Okay, let’s delve a bit deeper ...
How many articles mention Dr. Al Mohler? 709
How many articles mention Dr. XXXXXX? 678
How many articles mention Dr. XXXXXX? 38
How many articles mention Judge Paul Pressler? 61
How many articles mention Bobby Welch? 330
How many articles mention Rick Warren? 384
How many articles mention John Piper? 72
I won’t interpret this data; you can do that on your own. I am just relieved that evolution is not as big an issue as I feared. That’s good news.
However, two other aspects of this issue have gained my focus:
First, I am amazed that so many of our conservative leaders and scholars devote so much time to this issue. With all the problems in this world and in this country, it somewhat amazes me that people can spend so much time on this subject. Then again, what am I doing?
Perusing the various conservative leaders’ work on this subject, many of them see evolution as the source (or, at least, excuse) for all of modern life’s problems. Such is not the case but that is what many appear to believe publicly.
However, among the SBC leaders there have been two reasons given that we all should dislike about evolution. The first reason was given during the early days of the fundamentalist movement. Evolution was called a lie because it reduced man’s importance to the level of animal and denied he was made in the image of God. Such was not the case and this argument dropped by the wayside as the old fundamentalists did. However, the resurgence of fundamentalists into the SBC leadership under the dubious issue of biblical inerrancy precipitated a “revival” of the fundamentalist attack on evolution. This time the theory that had gained wide acceptance by the overwhelming majority of believers (including the majority of conservative believers) was being attacked on the basis of being contrary to the Bible, therefore, all who believed in evolution believed the Bible to be erring. Such was not the case but there you are. Now we are seeing a barrage of fundamentalist books and news stories articulating to the public and all the other Bible-believing Christians that evolution is contrary to the revealed Scriptures of the Creator.
The second aspect of this issue that has amazed me is one that has only recently come upon me.
Whenever I discuss this issue with other seminarians who are surprised at my belief in evolution and Biblical inerrancy, they almost always ask how I can agree with a theory that argues that man is not created in God’s image. I usually answer that I do not believe that the theory of evolution does contradict the revealed truth that humans are made in God’s image.
Yes, reasons Christians give for being against evolution are many: inerrancy, “miracle” creation, image of God … okay, the reasons are three. But there is one reason to be against evolution that I never hear from conservative Christians. Yes, I do have one problem with the theory of evolution that it is currently espoused.
In college, I read a book by William Golding called The Inheritors.
In this book, eight Neanderthals encounter another race of beings like themselves, yet strangely different. This new race, Homo sapiens, fascinating in their skills and sophistication, terrifying in their cruelty, sense of guilt, and incipient corruption, spell doom for the more gentle folk whose world they will inherit.
Now the subtle yet subversive point of this book is its title derived from the Bible, Matthew 5:5; this is the Sermon on the Mount, in which Jesus says, ‘Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth.’
Yes, there is a real problem with the current theory of evolution that argues for “the survival of the fittest”. Now I happen to believe that there is a way around this problem but there is still an idea in our world that the strong inherit the earth. Now I do not necessarily blame Darwin for this belief. The history of humanity (and its pre-history) suggests that this world is run by the aggressive use of force. Darwinism did not event “survival of the fittest”; it merely found a naturalistic basis for it.
Yet, as the Sermon on the Mount illustrates, the kingdom of heaven is not of this world and is based on laws and rules and commandments at antithesis to the rules of this world. The kingdom is based on peace, meekness, patience, joy, love, poverty and such a kingdom comes at a snails pace but lasts for eternity. This world is based on war, brute force, impatience, misery, hate, wealth and such a world comes quick but lasts only a moment. The kingdom of God is totally at odds with this world and this is the good news. The Kingdom of Heaven has come and is coming and was inaugurated by the coming of its king, Jesus of Nazareth, the Christ-figure, the Son of Man, the Son of God, the Incarnated God-Man, and the kingdom will find its perfection when Jesus returns. The Kingdom of God IS the Gospel. And the fact that the kingdom of heaven was based on meekness and the like was foolishness to the Greek mind and a stumbling block to the Jews. Yet there it is.
And it is still foolishness to this world and much of the Church. It is amazing, ironic and sad that the most famous use of the rules of the Kingdom of God were applied by the Hindus and Muslims of India under Gandhi.
The most famous American example was by Baptist pastor Martin Luther King Jr.
Unfortunately, King appears to have been the last prominent liberal Christian to use the kingdom method. From the 19th century onward (and particularly today), the liberal wing of the American Church is more interested in pushing forward their agenda and the kingdom by means at odds with the kingdom. Very ironic.
And, unfortunately, much of the conservative wing of the American Church has never taken an interest using the kingdom methods. Each time the conservative churches have moved toward the kingdom of God, the fundamentalist wing has taken over and pulled them back. It is interesting that the conservative resurgence leaders used the most worldly of methods to get their way and now are trying, like the liberal churches, to push their vision of the kingdom upon the American culture. And it is failing as well.
Both groups suffer from impatience and the unwillingness to let the “foolish” methods of the kingdom bring the kingdom to this world. Unfortunately, the kingdom can only come by means of the kingdom. All other methods will fail.
Watching the fundamentalist leadership’s efforts of using brute force and overwhelming power to effect change for the kingdom of God is both sad and disheartening. It is painful to see people who are certainly believers and certainly members of the kingdom of God use the most un-gospel-like methods to proclaim the gospel … if, in fact, they do know what the gospel is.
So it does not surprise me at all that most conservatives do not see “survival of the fittest” as a problem with evolution. Most conservatives don’t see “survival of the fittest” as a problem with the gospel! The last 40 years of Southern Baptist History seems to suggest as much.
All of this is to say that I wanted to know how many articles in the chief Southern Baptist Convention news and propaganda outlet, the Baptist Press, mentions the subject of “evolution.” I was under the impression that they mention the subject a lot. It appears that at least once a week some article out of Southern Seminary will be about the evils of evolution. So I researched the past five years of the Baptist Press and found that they only mention evolution in Evolution – 250 articles. So, yeah, about once a week.
...
Then I thought … hmm, how many articles has the Baptist Press mentioned other subjects in the past five years.
For example:
How many articles mention the “gospel”? 4269
How many articles mention Jesus? 6339
How many articles mention Faith? 6008
How many articles mention God? 10851
How many articles mention the Bible? 5215
How many articles mention the Kingdom? 1699
How many articles mention Salvation? 1598
How many articles mention Grace? 1546
How many articles mention Sin? 1264
How many articles mention Evil? 766
So that’s all interesting, but ...
How many articles mention Abortion? 1232
How many articles mention Homosexuality? 885
How many articles mention Poverty? 370
How many articles mention the Supreme Court? 1352
How many articles mention Judge? 1148
How many articles mention the Courts in general - 2220
Interesting where our priorities are located, but …
How many articles mention Republicans? 745
How many articles mention Democrats? 502
Okay, but ...
How many articles mention the Resurgence? 217
How many articles mention Liberal? 791
How many articles mention Conservative? 1386
How many articles mention Moderate? 341
But we are a Christian group standing on the shoulders of giants, so ...
How many articles mention Luther? 223
How many articles mention Calvin? 129
How many articles mention Barth? 8
How many articles mention Augustine? 50
How many articles mention Kierkegaard? 2
How many articles mention Niebuhr? 6
How many articles mention Darwin? 76
Okay, let’s delve a bit deeper ...
How many articles mention Dr. Al Mohler? 709
How many articles mention Dr. XXXXXX? 678
How many articles mention Dr. XXXXXX? 38
How many articles mention Judge Paul Pressler? 61
How many articles mention Bobby Welch? 330
How many articles mention Rick Warren? 384
How many articles mention John Piper? 72
I won’t interpret this data; you can do that on your own. I am just relieved that evolution is not as big an issue as I feared. That’s good news.
Tuesday, October 11, 2005
On The New NEBTS Teaching Policy
To the NEBTS Family and the Korean Students as well:
Here at Northeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in the thriving metropolis of Shelby, NC, we take great pains and liberties to follow the Word of God and the Bible in how we lead our and other people’s lives. To this effect we have been advancing our Kingdom Challenge program to bring the seminary and the surrounding properties more in line with the reactions of the convention and their understanding of the Bible ... which is the correct understanding of the Bible ... this year. Since the Biblical revelation plainly states that the proper gender for leading, teaching, pastoring, and deaconing is the male gender, the seminary, in accordance with the will of its nine trustees, has limited the role of teaching doctrine to men ... to men. Therefore, all NEBTS professors of the feminine gland who are currently teaching doctrinal classes such as theology, biblical studies, hermeneutics, history, spiritual formations, ethics, missiology and German will be asked to resign effective at noon tomorrow or face a heresy hearing at 1pm tomorrow.
For those women professors (or rather that woman professor) who are currently teaching theology and who are currently tenured, special arrangements will be made.
Though many of the three hundred year old songs that we sing in our churches and at chapel contain many doctrinal statements (such a grace, love, and God), our convention leadership hasn’t yet convinced the laity that leading worship is a type of teaching. Since we cannot convince the laity that female music ministers aren't sufficiently unbiblical enough, women will still be graciously allowed to teach men music.
Therefore, from this point on, all tenured women professors teaching theology (that means you, Dr. Mindy McConnell) will have to sing their lessons out to the male students of their class in contralto, mezzo-soprano or soprano. Male students will have to respond in bass, bass-baritone, baritone, tenor or countertenor. No falsetto, because the Bible speaks against homosexuality. And, of course, no recitatives.
Musical accompaniment must be provided by either a piano or organ (old ladies for piano and organ players are preferred); guitars, drums, and tambourines are prohibited. The music must be traditional and not contemporary, or a traditional song set to contemporary music (traditional songs are those written before 1945; comtemporary songs are those written after 1965. All songs written in between are moderate and aren't popular anyway). Male-female duets are prohibited in accordance with Scripture. Those students breaking this commandment will be stoned before chapel the following day. Dancers will get stoned after chapel. Students who are stoned will not be given food to satiate the munchies ... but professor of Christian Ethics Dr. Bugg Dooby will be there to mess with your heads.
Any questions or comments regarding the new policy should be addressed to Dr. Al Cuckold, chairman of the Ethical Conduct Committee. Students wishing to appeal an answer from the Ethical Conduct Committee may do so by asking the Executive Vice President and Provost, Dr. Al Cuckold.
Dr. Al Cuckold
Seminary Presdent
Here at Northeastern Baptist Theological Seminary in the thriving metropolis of Shelby, NC, we take great pains and liberties to follow the Word of God and the Bible in how we lead our and other people’s lives. To this effect we have been advancing our Kingdom Challenge program to bring the seminary and the surrounding properties more in line with the reactions of the convention and their understanding of the Bible ... which is the correct understanding of the Bible ... this year. Since the Biblical revelation plainly states that the proper gender for leading, teaching, pastoring, and deaconing is the male gender, the seminary, in accordance with the will of its nine trustees, has limited the role of teaching doctrine to men ... to men. Therefore, all NEBTS professors of the feminine gland who are currently teaching doctrinal classes such as theology, biblical studies, hermeneutics, history, spiritual formations, ethics, missiology and German will be asked to resign effective at noon tomorrow or face a heresy hearing at 1pm tomorrow.
For those women professors (or rather that woman professor) who are currently teaching theology and who are currently tenured, special arrangements will be made.
Though many of the three hundred year old songs that we sing in our churches and at chapel contain many doctrinal statements (such a grace, love, and God), our convention leadership hasn’t yet convinced the laity that leading worship is a type of teaching. Since we cannot convince the laity that female music ministers aren't sufficiently unbiblical enough, women will still be graciously allowed to teach men music.
Therefore, from this point on, all tenured women professors teaching theology (that means you, Dr. Mindy McConnell) will have to sing their lessons out to the male students of their class in contralto, mezzo-soprano or soprano. Male students will have to respond in bass, bass-baritone, baritone, tenor or countertenor. No falsetto, because the Bible speaks against homosexuality. And, of course, no recitatives.
Musical accompaniment must be provided by either a piano or organ (old ladies for piano and organ players are preferred); guitars, drums, and tambourines are prohibited. The music must be traditional and not contemporary, or a traditional song set to contemporary music (traditional songs are those written before 1945; comtemporary songs are those written after 1965. All songs written in between are moderate and aren't popular anyway). Male-female duets are prohibited in accordance with Scripture. Those students breaking this commandment will be stoned before chapel the following day. Dancers will get stoned after chapel. Students who are stoned will not be given food to satiate the munchies ... but professor of Christian Ethics Dr. Bugg Dooby will be there to mess with your heads.
Any questions or comments regarding the new policy should be addressed to Dr. Al Cuckold, chairman of the Ethical Conduct Committee. Students wishing to appeal an answer from the Ethical Conduct Committee may do so by asking the Executive Vice President and Provost, Dr. Al Cuckold.
Dr. Al Cuckold
Seminary Presdent
Monday, October 10, 2005
FIRST-PERSON: A creationist watches ‘Bugs Bunny’
In honor of Columbus Day ...
Oct 3, 2005
By Ronald Morris
SHELBY, NC. (BP)--There are many tensions between so-called "flat earth creationists" and "round earth creationists," those who believe the earth is flat and those who accept contemporary theory of the earth as round.
For a long time, I believed that Scripture was silent on the question of the shape of the earth. After all, the Hebrew word for “corners” or “quarters”: kanaph, kaw-nawf' means “an edge or extremity” (“the edge of a wing, of a garment or bed-clothing, a flap, of the earth, a quarter, uttermost part, wing”, for example). The Greek word for “corners”: gonia, means, “an angle, corner, quarter”. In recent months, however, as I have been teaching through the Ancient Near Eastern cosmology of the Bible and working on a lengthy article on general revelation, I have slowly changed my mind. The main issue for me is not the exegetical arguments for the use of the word "corner" (although there are some compelling evidences there for a flat, four-cornered earth in the Bible).
[Here are other scriptures of the Bible that indicate a flat earth with ends, edges, 2 verses that say the earth is a flat 2-dimensional circle (like a coin), that the earth is immovable, set on pillars or foundations. (Dan 4:10-11, Isa 40:22, Prov 8:26-28, Mat 4:8, Job 38:13, Job 11:9, Deu 13:7, Deu 28:49, Deu 28:64, Deu 33:17, 1 Sam 2:10, Job 1:7, Job 28:24, Job 37:3, Psa 2:8, Psa 19:4, Psa 22:27, Psa 33:13, Psa 33:14, Psa 48:10, Psa 59:13, Psa 61:2, Psa 65:5, Psa 72:8, Acts 1:8, Acts 13:47)]
I think, however, what convinced me that the earth is much flatter than we've been told was watching a Looney Tunes starring Bugs Bunny called Hare We Go. In this cartoon short, Bugs Bunny, as mascot, accompanies Christopher Columbus and his crew as they sail the ocean blue to America in 1492, but Columbus gets all the credit for discovering the continent. Specifically, the problem for Christian theology is the part where Christopher Columbus insists that the world is as round as his head. The King replies by hitting Christopher Columbus on the head with a mallet, saying, "It (the world) is flat like your head.” Bugs demonstrates the planet's roundness by tossing a baseball, which comes back from the other direction, covered with travel stickers. You may laugh at the cartoonish gag involved, but, if we are to believe the unquestioned assertions of modern myths of atheistic “science”, then, theoretically, if one could throw a baseball far enough at the correct gravitational position, then such a baseball could indeed be tossed in one direction and be caught from the other. This is the logical conclusion of the belief that the earth is round. Yet such an idea is foreign to our God-given awareness of creation. Flying baseballs with covered travel stickers?! Is this the earth God created and declared good?
Due to recent and rapidly expanding discoveries in physics, astronomy, geology, topography, and other major disciplines, hundreds of scientists are leaving the “round-earth” reservation. No longer able to adhere to an untenable theory with inexplicable gaffes and holes big enough to fly the Challenger space shuttle through, these scientists are conceding the point that the only plausible explanation for an intricately designed universe is a flat earth. It should be noted that many of these converts to flat-earth thought are not Christians or even religious; they are simply scientists who feel they can no longer deny and suppress the incontrovertible scientific evidence.
For several decades diehard “round earth” scientists have enjoyed the censorship of all their critics in America’s public education. Nothing but the spherical theory of the earth has been allowed into public school classrooms. All other explanations for the shape of the earth have been banned under the presumption of unconstitutionality - as if our Constitution prohibits public schools from teaching anything but the cockamamie theory of a round earth. Instead of questioning established assertions and seeking evidence to the contrary, which has always been the nature or true science, the science propagated in today’s public schools demands students’ blind allegiance to present and popular hypotheses. It does not teach students to be inquisitive but inflexible; it does not teach students how to think but what to think.
In a desperate attempt to protect their monopoly on public education and to discredit the growing chorus of dissenting voices among distinguished scientists, liberals are trying to frame the growing debate over the “spherical earth” and the “flat earth” as a debate between enlightened intellectuals and unintelligent religious fanatics. By doing so, they hope to fool the public into believing that only the obtuse object to the harebrained “round earth” theory.
Why, one wonders, are so many today so determined to keep all evidence of the Bible’s validity out of the public school classroom? Is it, as they portend, to protect the purity of scholasticism? Or is it something most sinister, such as “suppressing the truth in unrighteousness” (Romans 1:18)? According to the Apostle Paul, men’s denial of the truth of God and His creation is not only inexcusable (Romans 1:19-20) and idiotic (Romans 1:21-22), but indicative of “a reprobate mind” (Romans 1:23-32). Thus, contrary to popular opinion, it is not smarts but sin that is behind the expulsion of the flat earth from our public school classrooms.
I find the primary texts for understanding the shape of the world are Isaiah 11:12: “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 7:1: “And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.” Job 38:13: “That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?” Jeremiah 16:19: “O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.” Daniel 4:11: “The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH:”
Saint Augustine (354–430) questioned the existence of a spherical earth, arguing against the idea of people inhabiting the other side of the earth and called them a "fable" (De Civitate Dei, xvi, 9).
Those who affirm [a belief in antipodes] do not claim to possess any actual information; they merely conjecture that, since the Earth is suspended within the concavity of the heavens, and there is as much room on the one side of it as on the other, therefore the part which is beneath cannot be void of human inhabitants. They fail to notice that, even should it be believed or demonstrated that the world is round or spherical in form, it does not follow that the part of the Earth opposite to us is not completely covered with water, or that any conjectured dry land there should be inhabited by men.
Since these people would have to be descended from Adam, they would have had to travel to the other side of the Earth at some point, which is a universally absurd proposition; Augustine continues:
it is too absurd to say that some men might have set sail from this side and, traversing the immense expanse of ocean, have propagated there a race of human beings descended from that one first man.
In the current era, Samuel Shenton of the International Flat Earth Society has studied much of the so-called “evidence” that has come in the wake of the advent of the space program. Following careful research into supposed NASA photographs of earth from deep space, Shenton concluded: "It's easy to see how photographs like these could fool the untrained eye".
And yet, if Christians are ever to provide a "counter-theory" to the Pythagorean astronomy myth and the heliocentric model of Copernicus, we must account for a world that certainly does seem spherical, not only in terms of the obvious mathematics, but also in terms of (often even more suspect than mathematics) human experience.
I am more and more convinced that flat earth theory answers these questions in a way that is faithful to Scripture, the historic confessions of the Christian church throughout the ages, and to the longings of the human heart for a God who created a world he declared "four-cornered."
This doesn't mean we have a ready-made scientific answer for every possible objection to a four-cornered understanding of the earth, sitting on pillars, with the domed-firmament of the cosmos above. Sometimes we must recognize that we are not at the point where we can know exactly how the shifting standards of science fit with divine revelation.
More important is the fact that we have an account of creation that answers the most basic questions of all human beings, an account that resonates with our human experience of both dignity and grandeur.
Christians should recognize that to us has been revealed the "mystery" of the purpose of creation (Eph 1:9-10). We know that the Wisdom that ordered the cosmos, the Word that called the stars together, is a Person -- our King Jesus. We should recognize that the ends of the earth have been created as an inheritance for Jesus (Psalm 2:8). He has been appointed "the heir of all things, through whom He also created the world" (Hebrews 1:2).
It should boggle our minds when we look at the far-off images from the Hubble telescope to recognize that these stars – hundreds of miles beyond our reach - have been formed for Jesus and will be reconciled by the blood of his cross (Colossians 1:19-20). This means we should learn to interpret all of reality in terms of how it fits with God's overall purpose to "sum up all things in Christ" (Ephesians 1:10). As the believing community, we have the interpretive grid for this -- the Scriptures and the Spirit whereby we share "the mind of Christ" (1 Corinthians 2:16). In so doing, let's remember to train up our children to recognize the “spherical earth” theory for what it is. But let's also remember to never be ashamed of what Scripture tells us -- that long ago in an ancient land a king and a queen stood on a six-day old, flat earth, and God called it "good." That might not fit with your local high school's geology textbook. But it makes better sense than Bugs Bunny.
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Ronald Morris is dean of the School of Cosmology and senior vice president for academic administration at Northeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.
Oct 3, 2005
By Ronald Morris
SHELBY, NC. (BP)--There are many tensions between so-called "flat earth creationists" and "round earth creationists," those who believe the earth is flat and those who accept contemporary theory of the earth as round.
For a long time, I believed that Scripture was silent on the question of the shape of the earth. After all, the Hebrew word for “corners” or “quarters”: kanaph, kaw-nawf' means “an edge or extremity” (“the edge of a wing, of a garment or bed-clothing, a flap, of the earth, a quarter, uttermost part, wing”, for example). The Greek word for “corners”: gonia, means, “an angle, corner, quarter”. In recent months, however, as I have been teaching through the Ancient Near Eastern cosmology of the Bible and working on a lengthy article on general revelation, I have slowly changed my mind. The main issue for me is not the exegetical arguments for the use of the word "corner" (although there are some compelling evidences there for a flat, four-cornered earth in the Bible).
[Here are other scriptures of the Bible that indicate a flat earth with ends, edges, 2 verses that say the earth is a flat 2-dimensional circle (like a coin), that the earth is immovable, set on pillars or foundations. (Dan 4:10-11, Isa 40:22, Prov 8:26-28, Mat 4:8, Job 38:13, Job 11:9, Deu 13:7, Deu 28:49, Deu 28:64, Deu 33:17, 1 Sam 2:10, Job 1:7, Job 28:24, Job 37:3, Psa 2:8, Psa 19:4, Psa 22:27, Psa 33:13, Psa 33:14, Psa 48:10, Psa 59:13, Psa 61:2, Psa 65:5, Psa 72:8, Acts 1:8, Acts 13:47)]
I think, however, what convinced me that the earth is much flatter than we've been told was watching a Looney Tunes starring Bugs Bunny called Hare We Go. In this cartoon short, Bugs Bunny, as mascot, accompanies Christopher Columbus and his crew as they sail the ocean blue to America in 1492, but Columbus gets all the credit for discovering the continent. Specifically, the problem for Christian theology is the part where Christopher Columbus insists that the world is as round as his head. The King replies by hitting Christopher Columbus on the head with a mallet, saying, "It (the world) is flat like your head.” Bugs demonstrates the planet's roundness by tossing a baseball, which comes back from the other direction, covered with travel stickers. You may laugh at the cartoonish gag involved, but, if we are to believe the unquestioned assertions of modern myths of atheistic “science”, then, theoretically, if one could throw a baseball far enough at the correct gravitational position, then such a baseball could indeed be tossed in one direction and be caught from the other. This is the logical conclusion of the belief that the earth is round. Yet such an idea is foreign to our God-given awareness of creation. Flying baseballs with covered travel stickers?! Is this the earth God created and declared good?
Due to recent and rapidly expanding discoveries in physics, astronomy, geology, topography, and other major disciplines, hundreds of scientists are leaving the “round-earth” reservation. No longer able to adhere to an untenable theory with inexplicable gaffes and holes big enough to fly the Challenger space shuttle through, these scientists are conceding the point that the only plausible explanation for an intricately designed universe is a flat earth. It should be noted that many of these converts to flat-earth thought are not Christians or even religious; they are simply scientists who feel they can no longer deny and suppress the incontrovertible scientific evidence.
For several decades diehard “round earth” scientists have enjoyed the censorship of all their critics in America’s public education. Nothing but the spherical theory of the earth has been allowed into public school classrooms. All other explanations for the shape of the earth have been banned under the presumption of unconstitutionality - as if our Constitution prohibits public schools from teaching anything but the cockamamie theory of a round earth. Instead of questioning established assertions and seeking evidence to the contrary, which has always been the nature or true science, the science propagated in today’s public schools demands students’ blind allegiance to present and popular hypotheses. It does not teach students to be inquisitive but inflexible; it does not teach students how to think but what to think.
In a desperate attempt to protect their monopoly on public education and to discredit the growing chorus of dissenting voices among distinguished scientists, liberals are trying to frame the growing debate over the “spherical earth” and the “flat earth” as a debate between enlightened intellectuals and unintelligent religious fanatics. By doing so, they hope to fool the public into believing that only the obtuse object to the harebrained “round earth” theory.
Why, one wonders, are so many today so determined to keep all evidence of the Bible’s validity out of the public school classroom? Is it, as they portend, to protect the purity of scholasticism? Or is it something most sinister, such as “suppressing the truth in unrighteousness” (Romans 1:18)? According to the Apostle Paul, men’s denial of the truth of God and His creation is not only inexcusable (Romans 1:19-20) and idiotic (Romans 1:21-22), but indicative of “a reprobate mind” (Romans 1:23-32). Thus, contrary to popular opinion, it is not smarts but sin that is behind the expulsion of the flat earth from our public school classrooms.
I find the primary texts for understanding the shape of the world are Isaiah 11:12: “And he shall set up an ensign for the nations, and shall assemble the outcasts of Israel, and gather together the dispersed of Judah from the FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH.” Revelation 7:1: “And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree.” Job 38:13: “That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it?” Jeremiah 16:19: “O LORD, my strength, and my fortress, and my refuge in the day of affliction, the Gentiles shall come unto thee from the ENDS OF THE EARTH, and shall say, Surely our fathers have inherited lies, vanity, and things wherein there is no profit.” Daniel 4:11: “The tree grew, and was strong, and the height thereof reached unto heaven, and the sight thereof to the ENDS OF ALL THE EARTH:”
Saint Augustine (354–430) questioned the existence of a spherical earth, arguing against the idea of people inhabiting the other side of the earth and called them a "fable" (De Civitate Dei, xvi, 9).
Those who affirm [a belief in antipodes] do not claim to possess any actual information; they merely conjecture that, since the Earth is suspended within the concavity of the heavens, and there is as much room on the one side of it as on the other, therefore the part which is beneath cannot be void of human inhabitants. They fail to notice that, even should it be believed or demonstrated that the world is round or spherical in form, it does not follow that the part of the Earth opposite to us is not completely covered with water, or that any conjectured dry land there should be inhabited by men.
Since these people would have to be descended from Adam, they would have had to travel to the other side of the Earth at some point, which is a universally absurd proposition; Augustine continues:
it is too absurd to say that some men might have set sail from this side and, traversing the immense expanse of ocean, have propagated there a race of human beings descended from that one first man.
In the current era, Samuel Shenton of the International Flat Earth Society has studied much of the so-called “evidence” that has come in the wake of the advent of the space program. Following careful research into supposed NASA photographs of earth from deep space, Shenton concluded: "It's easy to see how photographs like these could fool the untrained eye".
And yet, if Christians are ever to provide a "counter-theory" to the Pythagorean astronomy myth and the heliocentric model of Copernicus, we must account for a world that certainly does seem spherical, not only in terms of the obvious mathematics, but also in terms of (often even more suspect than mathematics) human experience.
I am more and more convinced that flat earth theory answers these questions in a way that is faithful to Scripture, the historic confessions of the Christian church throughout the ages, and to the longings of the human heart for a God who created a world he declared "four-cornered."
This doesn't mean we have a ready-made scientific answer for every possible objection to a four-cornered understanding of the earth, sitting on pillars, with the domed-firmament of the cosmos above. Sometimes we must recognize that we are not at the point where we can know exactly how the shifting standards of science fit with divine revelation.
More important is the fact that we have an account of creation that answers the most basic questions of all human beings, an account that resonates with our human experience of both dignity and grandeur.
Christians should recognize that to us has been revealed the "mystery" of the purpose of creation (Eph 1:9-10). We know that the Wisdom that ordered the cosmos, the Word that called the stars together, is a Person -- our King Jesus. We should recognize that the ends of the earth have been created as an inheritance for Jesus (Psalm 2:8). He has been appointed "the heir of all things, through whom He also created the world" (Hebrews 1:2).
It should boggle our minds when we look at the far-off images from the Hubble telescope to recognize that these stars – hundreds of miles beyond our reach - have been formed for Jesus and will be reconciled by the blood of his cross (Colossians 1:19-20). This means we should learn to interpret all of reality in terms of how it fits with God's overall purpose to "sum up all things in Christ" (Ephesians 1:10). As the believing community, we have the interpretive grid for this -- the Scriptures and the Spirit whereby we share "the mind of Christ" (1 Corinthians 2:16). In so doing, let's remember to train up our children to recognize the “spherical earth” theory for what it is. But let's also remember to never be ashamed of what Scripture tells us -- that long ago in an ancient land a king and a queen stood on a six-day old, flat earth, and God called it "good." That might not fit with your local high school's geology textbook. But it makes better sense than Bugs Bunny.
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Ronald Morris is dean of the School of Cosmology and senior vice president for academic administration at Northeastern Baptist Theological Seminary.
Thursday, October 06, 2005
The Arky-Arky Song
Hello, boys and girls. This is your old pal Dr. Plenty Pentecostal.
This is a song about Aimee Semple McPherson - No! This is a song about Noah!
That's right: it's the "Arky-Arky Song".
God said to Noah, "Go build and arky-arky.
Fill it with animals: the ones that go 'Moo!', 'Barky-barky!'
It's gonna rain and get pretty darky-darky"
God's gonna wipe out the earth.
I don't think your charismatic enough.
That's right: I'll teach you to be charismatic.
...
I'LL TEACH ROBERT SCHULLER TO SUCK EGGS!!!
Now, boys and girls; let's try it again.
God said to Noah, "Bring'em in by twosie-twosie."
Noah to God said, "But I'm just a Jewsy-Jewsy."
God said to Noah, "I'm not to choosey-choosey."
God's gonna wipe out the earth.
If you ain't the granddaddy of the Four-Square Gospel!
Mmm, the people of the Southern Baptist Convention ... they don't know that their liberal ...
That's very funny ... salvation without baptismal regeneration ...
I TOLD YOU I'D SHOOT! BUT YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE ME! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!
God said to Noah, "It's 'bout to get funky-funky.
Tie down the animals, especially the monkey-monkeys.
It's gonna rain and kill all the honky-honkys."
God's gonna wipe out the earth.
This is a song about Aimee Semple McPherson - No! This is a song about Noah!
That's right: it's the "Arky-Arky Song".
God said to Noah, "Go build and arky-arky.
Fill it with animals: the ones that go 'Moo!', 'Barky-barky!'
It's gonna rain and get pretty darky-darky"
God's gonna wipe out the earth.
I don't think your charismatic enough.
That's right: I'll teach you to be charismatic.
...
I'LL TEACH ROBERT SCHULLER TO SUCK EGGS!!!
Now, boys and girls; let's try it again.
God said to Noah, "Bring'em in by twosie-twosie."
Noah to God said, "But I'm just a Jewsy-Jewsy."
God said to Noah, "I'm not to choosey-choosey."
God's gonna wipe out the earth.
If you ain't the granddaddy of the Four-Square Gospel!
Mmm, the people of the Southern Baptist Convention ... they don't know that their liberal ...
That's very funny ... salvation without baptismal regeneration ...
I TOLD YOU I'D SHOOT! BUT YOU DIDN'T BELIEVE ME! WHY DIDN'T YOU BELIEVE ME!
God said to Noah, "It's 'bout to get funky-funky.
Tie down the animals, especially the monkey-monkeys.
It's gonna rain and kill all the honky-honkys."
God's gonna wipe out the earth.
Tuesday, October 04, 2005
Cry Happiness released
Boston-based rock band, Miles From Land has released their first album, Cry Happiness.
Who are Miles From Land?
"we are from the backyard. the corner where the rocketship stands. we grew up listening to science. love. math. action. squint tightly. the flashes are really sounds. this is just a smokescreen. an oilslick. a diversion to keep you occupied."
I have the privilege of being friends with one the band members for almost a decade now. I am going to purchase my copy this week.
Who are Miles From Land?
"we are from the backyard. the corner where the rocketship stands. we grew up listening to science. love. math. action. squint tightly. the flashes are really sounds. this is just a smokescreen. an oilslick. a diversion to keep you occupied."
I have the privilege of being friends with one the band members for almost a decade now. I am going to purchase my copy this week.
WHAT IS THE GOSPEL?
As I have mentioned previously, I am on a quest to find a more effective means of evangelizing. The source of this venture stems from my focus on the current evangelical crisis that has been affecting the Southern Baptist Convention. This search for a solution to the evangelical crisis is the logical outcome of my criticism (both positive and negative) of that institution and the evangelical wing of the American Church as a whole. If one is going to criticize a movement or institution, it is always good to offer or suggest solutions to the problem that is being analyzed. Unfortunately, the solution to a problem is usually a more difficult beast to tame while pointing out a problem is simply capturing the animal (this is why Clyde Beatty was greater than Frank Buck).
The process of my exploration into the solutions for the evangelical crisis have taken many avenues: history, theology, philosophy, politics, and, of course, Scripture, to name just a few. I’ve also been reading many books about evangelism and ascertaining from various evangelism professors and evangelists about their views on the subject. I’ve also been testing my theories about evangelistic methods both in theory and in practice. By this I mean that I have begun to explain some of my findings on the subject to various people more active in evangelism than myself and, also, suggesting these methods of evangelism to various individuals for real like practice. The response I have received in theory has been quite positive. Most individuals have agreed with much of my findings in either theory or in experience or both. Still, the ultimate test of my theories will be with positive evangelistic results, i.e., conversions: the proof is in the pudding.
Now during the progression of my research and thought, I have frequently encountered the phrase “preach the gospel”. Every time I read or hear and evangelist, professor, author, or denomination or seminary leader speak about the issue of evangelism or the Great Commission (i.e., our purpose as believers of this age), I always hear that we are supposed to “preach the gospel.” Well, the meaning of “evangelism” is to “preach the gospel (or the good news)”. As evangelicals we are to “proclaim the good news”.
…
The odd thing about this notion in our day is that most people do not seem to have any idea of what the “gospel” is. And I am not just talking about the everyday churchgoer; I’m talking about seminary students, pastors, church leaders, professors and even evangelists. And I will throw myself in on this pile. I had some second thoughts about my understanding of what the gospel is. I mean, if we are charged to go out and proclaim the gospel, it behooves us to know what it is. Therefore, I began to research the Bible and my various secondary theological books and ascertained what the gospel actually is … and it surprised me. It surprised me because my prior conception of the gospel was very limited; I had only recognized part of the gospel message and, therefore, my thinking along these lines was only partial.
Part of the problem comes from the fact that all of the New Testament writers have a different take on the gospel. Each writer emphasizes a particular part of the gospel which is somewhat different from the other writers. None of these aspects of the gospel is contradictory to the other but rarely are they complete. Some are more general while others are more specific. What occurs is that we believers latch on to one author’s emphasis (for whatever reason) and take it as our own and reject all others.
The other part of the problem stems from the first: we are not educating our brothers and sisters in Christ as to what the gospel actually is. I think that if we did educate them about the complete extent of the gospel then we might alleviate many of our current church problems (including our evangelistic problems, though I do not think that this knowledge in itself would solve the current evangelical crisis. While the content of our message is undoubtedly important and plays a significant factor, the context of our methods is my primary focus in researching this issue).
When I understood what the gospel actually was, much of the rest of the New Testament began to fall into place. In fact, much of the Old Testament began to fall into place. Yes, I did indeed move again a tad bit to the left. Perhaps that is one reason we do not emphasize other aspects of the gospel. Who knows!
Now I suppose you are all wondering what my new found understanding of the gospel is. Well, I am not going to tell you; I want you to tell me.
I want you to tell me in toto, WHAT IS THE GOSPEL?
I really want believers to think about this. I really want believers to go back to the Scriptures. It appears that we are mostly ignorant on this pivotal issue and no one appears to think it necessary for us to know.
So, if you know, please comment.
The process of my exploration into the solutions for the evangelical crisis have taken many avenues: history, theology, philosophy, politics, and, of course, Scripture, to name just a few. I’ve also been reading many books about evangelism and ascertaining from various evangelism professors and evangelists about their views on the subject. I’ve also been testing my theories about evangelistic methods both in theory and in practice. By this I mean that I have begun to explain some of my findings on the subject to various people more active in evangelism than myself and, also, suggesting these methods of evangelism to various individuals for real like practice. The response I have received in theory has been quite positive. Most individuals have agreed with much of my findings in either theory or in experience or both. Still, the ultimate test of my theories will be with positive evangelistic results, i.e., conversions: the proof is in the pudding.
Now during the progression of my research and thought, I have frequently encountered the phrase “preach the gospel”. Every time I read or hear and evangelist, professor, author, or denomination or seminary leader speak about the issue of evangelism or the Great Commission (i.e., our purpose as believers of this age), I always hear that we are supposed to “preach the gospel.” Well, the meaning of “evangelism” is to “preach the gospel (or the good news)”. As evangelicals we are to “proclaim the good news”.
…
The odd thing about this notion in our day is that most people do not seem to have any idea of what the “gospel” is. And I am not just talking about the everyday churchgoer; I’m talking about seminary students, pastors, church leaders, professors and even evangelists. And I will throw myself in on this pile. I had some second thoughts about my understanding of what the gospel is. I mean, if we are charged to go out and proclaim the gospel, it behooves us to know what it is. Therefore, I began to research the Bible and my various secondary theological books and ascertained what the gospel actually is … and it surprised me. It surprised me because my prior conception of the gospel was very limited; I had only recognized part of the gospel message and, therefore, my thinking along these lines was only partial.
Part of the problem comes from the fact that all of the New Testament writers have a different take on the gospel. Each writer emphasizes a particular part of the gospel which is somewhat different from the other writers. None of these aspects of the gospel is contradictory to the other but rarely are they complete. Some are more general while others are more specific. What occurs is that we believers latch on to one author’s emphasis (for whatever reason) and take it as our own and reject all others.
The other part of the problem stems from the first: we are not educating our brothers and sisters in Christ as to what the gospel actually is. I think that if we did educate them about the complete extent of the gospel then we might alleviate many of our current church problems (including our evangelistic problems, though I do not think that this knowledge in itself would solve the current evangelical crisis. While the content of our message is undoubtedly important and plays a significant factor, the context of our methods is my primary focus in researching this issue).
When I understood what the gospel actually was, much of the rest of the New Testament began to fall into place. In fact, much of the Old Testament began to fall into place. Yes, I did indeed move again a tad bit to the left. Perhaps that is one reason we do not emphasize other aspects of the gospel. Who knows!
Now I suppose you are all wondering what my new found understanding of the gospel is. Well, I am not going to tell you; I want you to tell me.
I want you to tell me in toto, WHAT IS THE GOSPEL?
I really want believers to think about this. I really want believers to go back to the Scriptures. It appears that we are mostly ignorant on this pivotal issue and no one appears to think it necessary for us to know.
So, if you know, please comment.
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