“All who call upon the name of the Lord shall me saved” (Joel 2:28-32; Acts 2:17-20; Rom 10:13).
About 15 years ago, I decided to find a better method of
evangelizing or (at least) engaging skeptics and atheists. This was about the
time when the attendance decline that had marched through the mainline
denominations started to visibly progress through the evangelical ones, most
notably in the Southern Baptist Convention which saw (and continues to see)
declines in attendance and baptisms. This decline was the impetus for my
search.
I had grown frustrated with the seemingly universal evangelical
approach of using apologetics and reasoned arguments to win hearts and minds
for Christ. I certainly questioned the effectiveness of such an approach, as
well as its legitimacy. Exactly what fruit were we seeing from reasoned
discussions with atheists about the existence of God? What were the results?
Had anyone gone from atheist to Christian based upon reasoned arguments? When
I’d ask this last question to Christian supporters of apologetic evangelism,
the reply was always the same: Lee Strobel. No other example was ever given. In
my own mind, I questioned whether a single example of success was warrant for
an entire wing of evangelical methodology. Such an approach was only slightly
better than taking an atheist to the Middle East and have him travel between
Jerusalem and Damascus, Syria because that’s how Paul was converted. Even then,
I and other Christians before me have questioned the authenticity of Strobel’s
account of his investigation into the Faith, pointing to timeline
discrepancies, his methodological approach, and whether his was more leap than
logic.
Other apologetic evangelists, however, were far more realistic and
measured in their understanding of their method’s effectiveness. They state
that their approach was not to reason skeptics into the Faith but to remove
issues and problems that hindered the skeptic from hearing the gospel. I still
think theirs is a valid reason, which quite rightly puts the onus upon the
Spirit himself to regenerate the individual to repentance and belief. But since
it is God himself who brings about the change, perhaps there was a swifter or
easier way to bring this about.
I began considering approaches which largely avoided apologetic
arguments for the existence of God, though they occasionally do appear. While
certainly there is a limited place inside the Church itself for epistemology,
ontology, the theory of value, William Lane Craig’s Kalām Cosmological Argument,
and the reduction ad absurdum of the presuppositionalists, as evangelistic
methods of outreach, they harden the mind far more than they soften the heart.
Even if there is rational proof for the existence of God, it is a proof which
largely escapes the notice of most people for whatever reason. Certainly,
whatever rational arguments are currently out there have been found lacking by
the most prominent of atheist minds. Whatever reason the apologists offer for
the failure to provide convincing arguments for the skeptics, only concedes the
point that reason has its limits. If anything, most people are largely
irrational, particularly about religion (whether for it or against it), and
everyone is somewhat irrational. Indeed, few seem to reason their way into
Christian doctrinal beliefs but are rather born into it, inculcated within the
religious community. Which is why Presbyterians usually give birth to
Presbyterians rather than Roman Catholics. Put yourself in the position of a skeptic
by imagining speaking with an adherent to Islam: “Your father was a Muslim,
your Grandfather was a Muslim, you’re great Grandfather
was a Muslim, and your great great Grandfather was a Muslim … but you yourself
became a Muslim thru reasoned arguments. Really? You don’t say?” A somewhat
flippant analogy, but that’s how atheists and skeptics look at most Christians.
But even if there were a common, reasoned argument for the existence of God and
the individual was at the peak of rational thought, the nature and problem of
sin nevertheless interferes with both hearts and minds. Many good Calvinist
theologians have claimed that while every human being has been granted the
capacity to know God (sensus divinitatis), it does not work properly in
some or all humans due to sin’s noetic effects. Our capacity then to know God
thus requires divine intervention in the form of the Spirit’s influence upon
hearts and minds. Again, as noted above, if it is God himself who brings about
the change, perhaps there was a better way to bring this about.
By the time I had begun thinking along these lines, I had been reading Soren Kierkegaard and the neo-orthodox theologians for several years and had been highly influenced by them. I was intrigued by Christian existentialism, the theology of encounter, and the revelation of God. While not discounting the objective nature of the Christian Faith and biblical truths, I came to appreciate the idea that objective, biblical truth was of little use to the individual unless it had a subjective effect. Eventually, all these thoughts came to a head, and I conceived of an evangelistic method of proof so simple that it can be wielded by the smallest child. Therefore, fifteen years ago, I wrote the following:
Over the past six months I have sought to update the evangelistic
method in the wake of the current Evangelical Crisis that has befallen the
Southern Baptist Convention and evangelicalism in general. As I see it, the
problem with atheism is not that they demand proof of God’s existence, but, rather,
they refuse to do what is necessary to get the proof which they say they
require. Atheists principally state they require objective proof or, more
precisely, scientific proof. They require proof that can be tested, repeated by
many others so that all those who perform the exact test will always
independently get the same results. From this repeatable test, a general
consensus from the learned community is reached as to the certainty of that
repeated test. This sort of proof is objective and impersonal.
However, while scientific and objective proofs are certainly
excellent methods of gaining knowledge, they are not the only methods. The
method by which God proves his existence to a fallen world is not by objective
proofs but by subjective ones. God’s proof is very personal and not separate
from the individual seeking that proof. Furthermore, God’s proof does not come
by experiments that can be tested, repeated, and generally agreed upon by
learned consensus. Certainly, there are certain doctrinal agreements that are
made by the individuals in a community of believers, but these agreements are
made based on the assumption that individuals in that community have had that
independent and subjective experience of God.
There are good reasons why God would choose to provide proof of his
existence by subjective means. For the
purposes of this article, I note two: First, the individual’s experience of God
is profoundly relational. When God first called Abraham to be a part of his
plan to renew creation, he made a personal promise and agreement with the
patriarch (Gen 12). A similar promise was made with Jacob (Gen 28). All through
the book of Genesis, God engages with humans on a personal level, making
promises, predictions, agreements, and warnings. Indeed, when he appears before
Hebrews he often identifies himself and is identified as the God of Abraham,
Isaac, and Jacob (Gen 26:24; 28:13; 31:29, 42, 53; 32:9; 46:1; Exod 3:6, 15,
16; 4:5), noting his personal relationship. When God appears to Moses, he
identifies himself as Yahweh, which means “I was who I was, I am who I am, I
will be what I will be.” (Exod 3:14). The main point of this name is not to
affirm existence, but to affirm his personal commitment as a god who can be
personally trusted. All these references emphasize a personal relationship
which by its very nature is subjective.[1]
Second, the possibility of experiencing God is universal. One
might assume that the necessity of subjective proofs to prove God’s existence
complicates the matter, but this assumption would be incorrect. A subjective
proof is much simpler and much more accessible to the individual human. We do
not need doctorates and excessive education in order to relate to our Creator.
We only need the ability to relate personally. If we did need an advanced
education to relate to God, then the ability to experience God would be limited
to particular individuals, not universal humanity. God is just and fair and
wishes all to relate to him. Therefore, God gives everyone the ability to
relate to him, not just the learned.
In this vein, atheists also have
the ability to relate to God. Atheists have within them the method by which
they can prove God’s existence, at least to themselves. However, most atheists
and skeptics refuse to apply this method in order to prove God’s existence. In
order to irrefutably prove God’s existence, atheists only have to ask God to
prove his existence to them. If they ask, he will answer. However, most refuse
to ask. Indeed, atheists and skeptics state that they will not relate to God
until they have evidence of his existence. The problem is that proof for his
existence comes from that relation. To give an analogy of the situation: If one
wants to solve a mathematical equation one works the problem out. By working
out the mathematical equation one gets the answer. An atheist wants to know the
answer of that mathematical equation before he or she solves the problem. For
atheists, only by knowing the answer before they solve the problem, do they
feel secure with the answer they get.
And I think security is the right word. Again, atheists want
objective and impersonal proof. They want God to prove his existence apart from
themselves. God is required to prove himself over *there* but not *here*. God
is required to prove his existence in an impersonal way, to the general
consensus of the community, and not to the particular recognition of the
individual. Yet, God is a personal being who relates to individuals in a
personal and subjective way. If atheists refuse to apply the relational method
of proving God’s existence, then they should not complain that they have no
proof of his existence. Indeed, experience has shown me that the skeptic’s
prerequisite that such proof be presented apart from their selves is evidence
of their hesitancy to become personally involved in the pursuit of such proof.
For this reason, when I meet a skeptic who states that he or she doesn’t believe in the existence of God because of the lack of proof, I always ask a few questions:
1) You do not believe in God. Okay, do you want there to be a God? Why or why not?
2) What do you think would be the benefits of there being a God?
3) How does the non-existence of God affect your life?
4) How would the existence of God affect your life?
The purpose of these questions is to personalize the issue for the skeptic and urge him or her to seek a relationship with God.
Apart from a few fixes, deletions and clarifications, everything I noted above was written by me 15 years ago. In the years since, I’ve used this simple, questioning method in many different occasions. My experience has been that it works, and much more so than the various apologetic methods. Many atheists and skeptics have wanted to argue with me on the existence of God and the problem of evil. But I prefer to set the rules of engagement myself. “Ask God to prove his existence to you. You’ve nothing to lose."
Atheists and skeptics know all the clichéd arguments that atheists have made over the years, and all the Christian responses to those clichés. However, when I personalize the issue, I’ve undercut them, making all their traditional arguments irrelevant. They aren’t expecting that. It catches them off guard, makes them vulnerable. That’s to our advantage. Again, in my experience, this method has worked. Skeptics will later tell me that they now do believe in God’s existence. Their rationale is frequently illogical, gapped, and far more of a leap than a step-by-step rationale, but there they are.
Up until now, I’ve never had the opportunity to record such discussions using my method. A few months back, in two posts open to the public, I wrote the first paragraph under “ME” below. Two skeptics about the existence of God (who I’ll identify as A1 and A2) chose to respond to my post. As you will see, both were very respectful about my religious beliefs and really wanted to discuss the matter in a reasoned and thoughtful manner. Pay close attention to dialogue below.
ME: “If God exists, the fact that humans know
means some form of proof has been offered & accepted. If God exists, then
enough proof's been given to convince 95% of the population. Those who don't
believe in God claim they need proof; those who believe already have the proof
they need. The problem with atheism is not that they demand proof of God’s
existence. Rather, the problem with atheism is that they refuse to do what is
necessary to get the proof which they say they require.”
A1: “What is necessary?”
A2: “I think this is an odd way to consider the
issue. I mean, you don't run around ‘doing what is necessary to get proof of
Mbombo.’ You just remain unconvinced if his existence. You're a non-believer
regarding Mbombo.[2]
I'm a non-believer regarding your god. No need to fret.”
ME: “Would you or would you not want there to be
a god? We'll define ‘god’ simply as a supreme being who creates everything but
himself and can create a personal relationship with a human being?”
A1: “It’s not about desire. I don’t believe
there’s a monster under my child’s bed just because he said there was. Until
evidence presents itself of such an extraordinary claim then I’ll not believe
it. Regardless of how much I or anyone else want it to be true.”
A2: “You're attempting to alter the trajectory of
this conversation. You originally suggested the problem with atheists is that
they don't do enough to search for the evidence for god … I pointed out that
you don't search for evidence for Mbombo; You simply remain unconvinced.”
ME: “Actually no, I am not altering the course of
the conversation. In fact, this is precisely the same course I've followed on
this subject for nearly 15 yrs. I'm offering atheists a way to be convinced
that there is a God. And it's not that atheists aren't doing enough, but not
doing what's necessary. And believe me, I myself am not going to try and
convince; I’m suggesting a far easier way. Would you like to know what it is?”
A2: “I'm certainly open to being convinced god
exists. However, it's not my responsibility to seek her out. Either she wishes
to convince me, or she doesn't.”[3]
ME: “Here me out on this, friend. If there was a
God, would you want to be convinced of it to your own satisfaction?”
A1: “Absolutely. If something is real, I’d want
for science to show it and would defend its existence.”
Me: “Would you be willing to be convinced outside
of scientific verification?”
A1: “Such as?”
Me: “Here's what I want you to do. I want you to
sincerely ask God to prove his existence to you. Just say something to the
effect of God, if you exist, let me know. Then just be patient over the next
few weeks and months and see what happens. It can't hurt to try. Nothing to
lose.”
A2: “If your god wishes to make his existence
known to us, I'm sure she's capable of doing so instantaneously. Really, it's
quite simple: Either your god exists, or she doesn't. If she does, she either
wishes to convince us of her existence, or she does not. It's her choice.”
Me: “Why don't you ask her if she exists? Just
sincerely ask her and then be patient. Give a few weeks or months. What do you
have to lose?”
A2: “Why? If she wants to convince me of her
existence, she's free to do so at any time.”
ME: “Please don't take offense to this ... It's
not my intent to offend ... But you are sort of proving my point in a way.”
[“The problem with atheism is not that they demand proof of
God’s existence. Rather, the problem with atheism is that they refuse to do
what is necessary to get the proof which they say they require.”]
A2: “You can see how this wouldn’t satisfy
someone as proof right? I think the fundamental difference is believers are
happy with faith and speak to personal experiences. I personally don’t trust
things not based in science with verifiable evidence. A key part of being a
sceptic.”
ME: “The complexity of the universe is such that
it's difficult for our finite minds to grasp it's wonders. On top of that is
our nurtured prejudices, biases, worldviews, & unconscious desires. Mostly,
we don't know what we don't know. I'm simply suggesting a way to find out.”
A1: “So god of the gaps? We used to think god lit
a fire every morning to raise the sun. Then we learnt. We used to think we were
the center of the universe, then we learnt. We keep plugging these knowledge
gaps with science. The absence of knowledge is not proof of god.”
ME: “No, no. Never "God of the gaps".
I'm saying we're all finite & prejudiced to some degree or other. I'm also
offering a way to find out a little bit of the truth about the existence of
God, which should be easy to do, presumably without downside. Just give it try
and be patient.”
A1: “Would you also be open to challenging your
own faith? Perhaps by searching for one single piece of physical evidence that
proved conclusively god’s existence?”
ME: “Sure. What would it look like? At the same
time, will you follow my suggestion to sincerely ask God to prove his/her
existence to you, and then wait patiently for a response?”
[These two questions went unanswered.]
A2: “You’re under the impression the burden of
proof for your assertion falls upon my shoulders. It doesn’t. Again, either
your god exists, or she doesn’t. If she does exist, she either desires to
convince me of her existence, or she doesn’t. Really, it’s no skin off my
back.”
ME: “Not really. If I said the answer to a
question was written in the first line of a book's paragraph, perhaps you have
the burden of reading the line, but, apart from that, the argument is being
made by someone else completely. The burden isn't in the questioner, only the
answerer. But let me ask you: Why do you think you're having such difficulty
simply asking the question? I mean, our discussion began with my assertion that
people refuse to make the request.”
[A1 responds to the following statement by me from above: “Here's
what I want you to do. I want you to sincerely ask God to prove his existence
to you. Just say something to the effect of God, if you exist, let me know.
Then just be patient over the next few weeks and months and see what happens.
It can't hurt to try. Nothing to lose.”]
A1: “You’re right there’s nothing to lose. But
what sign would I be looking for? Aside from real verifiable evidence of gods
existence what would this be? How would I know I wasn’t the victim of personal
bias?”
ME: “My experience indicates various
"signs". I'd prefer not to suggest anything; it often happens to
people in ways I couldn't guess. Just try it and see what happens. With regards
to personal bias, I suspect you'll have to reflect on the experience yourself
and make that decision.”
A1: “But that’s the point right. Any conclusion I
make would be based on personal experience and be biased in some way.”
ME: “Try it and see. You said you agreed that
there's nothing to lose by asking. Give it a try and see if you're dissatisfied
with the results.”
A1: “I’m not sure I would know how to do it.
Which god would you like me to contact? How do I do that? How do I confirm I
have the right god? What’s my control? What should I ask for? How long do u
wait? How do I distinguish between things that were going to happen via sign?”
ME: “Let God figure all that out. Just sincerely
say, ‘God, let me know you exist.’ Then be patient. Again, no harm in trying.”
A1: “To be clear my issue is not belief. I’ll
march and protect the day they try and stop you from believing whatever you
want to believe. I have just never seen proof of any gods. If we ran any other
part of our world this way, we’d consider it crazy.”
ME: “I appreciate that. If I didn't believe, I
hope I'd have the same respect for those who did. My experience is that proof
comes via subjective experiences. This might seem odd, but it's proof that can
be grasped at any intelligence level, not just the best at objective sciences.”
A1: “We wouldn’t manufacture drugs based on
personal bias, we wouldn’t want criminals convicted without physical evidence.
We wouldn’t trust a pilot who believed he had enough fuel instead of doing the
calculations and checking the instruments. Why do we allow religion special
rules?”
ME: “I wouldn't say religion has any unique rules. Christianity, at least, makes particular claims to history. With history, the discovery is more towards witness, documentation, probability, value judgments, and the interpretive consensus of a recognized expert community. Certainly, the scientific method can play a part in the discovery of history, but only a part. For example: we can know Caesar probably crossed the Rubicon, we can explain (scientifically) how he did it, but then there's the more subjective question of why it was significant. All such thinking, in terms of Christianity, is important down the road, but not usually the best way to start. If I were you, I'd start with direct questions to this God (who may or may not exist for you) and see how he responds. Be honest to him; he really doesn't mind.”
Our conversation then ended with respectful appreciations on all
sides.
Now, what did you notice about this discussion? What stuck out? There’s
much to analyze about their responses to my statements.
As I noted in the beginning of our conversation, and apparently the
comment that drew their attention: “The problem with atheism is that they
refuse to do what is necessary to get the proof which they say they require.”
Throughout this good-natured discussion, the two skeptics would not
do, or say they would do, the very thing I said would bring them proof. Even when
I mentioned that they were proving my first comment to be true, they continued their
refusal. Instead, they were trying to think up reasons to not get the proof.[4]
They were applying rational thought with great irrationality. Why did they
refuse to do it? As I said, and what A1 confirmed, they had nothing to lose. Don’t
you find that odd? What do you make of it? Why do you think they (as with many
other skeptics in my experience) refuse to ask God to given them proof of his
or her existence? Again, this is not an isolated event. I’ve had many similar
discussions with skeptics over the years, including incidences that occurred
before I wrote my original article over 15 years ago. What holds them back?
Which is why reasoned arguments for the existence of God are of
little use. Most atheists and skeptics will be irrational. They’d rather lose
the argument than gain the proof. This is a serious hardening of the heart and mind,
blinded by the god of this world (2 Corinthians 4:4; Psa 115:8; 135:15-18; Isa
6:9-10; Rom 1:23, 25; 12:2). In truth, there is very little that we can do.
However, the TRUE God of this world can do something. What we can do then is invite
the skeptics and atheists closer to God. We just setting up the meeting, where
the person can come “face to face” with his or her creator. Then we let God do
the work.
Of course, this approach will not work every time. As seen above, many
will be too blind to even attempt to talk to God. Similarly, they will be too
blind to recognize that something is holding them back. Anything beyond slip of
a thought will be rationalized away. Nevertheless, this is a better evangelistic
approach than any reasoned argument. It works in often surprising ways,
overcoming the limits of reason and rationalizations.
[1]
I’d add that the God of the Hebrews is one who shows emotion and concern. He laughs,
is joyful, is angry, is pleased, loves, forgives, shows mercy, is patient, and
shows regret and sorrow. He also shows deep concern for the poor, the widows
and orphans, the neglected, the abused, the forgotten, the slaves and the
kings, and intervenes to right wrongs. All of this reflects his personal
character as more a subject to be experienced than an object to be studied.
[2] “Mbombo,
also called Bumba, is the creator god in the religion and mythology of the Kuba
people of Central Africa in the area that is now known as Democratic Republic
of the Congo. In the Mbombo creation myth, Mbombo was a giant in form and white
in color. The myth describes the creation of the universe from nothing. The
story of Mbombo's creation tells that in the beginning, Mbombo was alone,
darkness and primordial water covered all the earth. It would happen that
Mbombo came to feel an intense pain in his stomach, and then Mbombo vomited the
sun, the moon, and stars.” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mbombo
[3]
It’s possible but uncertain that this person was attempting to distract me or
alter the conversation at this point by referring to God as feminine. I’ve seen
atheists and skeptics use similar techniques in similar conversations. Don’t
get distracted by such attempts; stay on target. Certainly, don’t try to win
the argument; try to win the person. This is exactly what Jesus did when he
spoke with the woman at the well (John 4). When he mentions something that
makes her uncomfortable (v. 17-19), she brings up a divisive
theological-political issue (v. 20), possibly as a distraction to change the
subject (see Acts 23:6-10). Jesus doesn't take the bait. His response is to go
much deeper into the problem than in the surface, contentious matters, but
still making the matter personal for the woman (v. 21).
[4] One
thought I was attempting to change the subject. Again, many skeptics and
atheists know the points and arguments that theists tend to make in such
discussions - particularly those who seek out debates with theists. But the
line of questioning which I propose is (so far) relatively uncommon. If
anything, it was the skeptics who were attempting to change the subject.
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